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June 19, 2012

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Carl Campbell

well written...if we can only get our people to act...

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It is difficult, but one of the things that needs to be done is separate what the right thing to do is (in terms of achieving what you want), versus what people think they want.

It seems contradictory to what we often believe, but the countries with the highest crime rates are usually also the countries with the strictest punishments.

The death penalty, longer prison sentences, etc. do not prevent crime from happening. If the death penalty worked as a deterrent, then no murders would ever take place, yet they do. Prisons end up being crime schools and gang induction systems, and so longer sentences works against the goal of preventing crime. The goal should be to try and keep people out of prison, and only use it as a last resort.

If you don't step back, and look and see what actually works compared to what your gut feeling is, you end up in a vicious circle. The public demands harsher penalties, a politician campaigns on being tough on crime and gives the public harsher penalties, which is then followed by increased crime which leads to further public demands for even harsher penalties, etc. Which works out well for the politician because they have a push button issue they can continously use to manipulate the voters.

Which is not to say you don't have any punishments, but recognize that moderation works better. You are better off keeping fewer people in prison on shorter sentences, and using the money saved from building and staffing new prisons to improve the arrest/conviction rate, and prevent things from happening in the first place.

As for the social causes, going down the moral failure road can be double edged. Asking for the churches to step in is doomed to failure because they are often a contributing factor.

In the US according to the CDC the highest teen birth rate occurs in the south, with the lowest in the north east. This corresponds with the influence of the church, and its message of not teaching teens about contraception and how their bodies work leading to higher pregnancy rates because the teens will have sex regardless of what the church says.

The US northeast, and Europe, where the church has little influence in public policy and thus teens are taught about contraception, not surprisingly have the lowest teen birth rates. The basic message is that regardless of what the church and politicians say, a given percentage of teen will have sex anyway. If they are going to do it, educating them so they take precautions to avoid the pregnancy wins out over ignorance.


larry smith

By most accounts it is highly unlikely that a handful of executions following years of delay will have any deterrent effect. And the death penalty has many other problems associated with it.

http://www.bahamapundit.com/2009/10/the-death-penalty-in-the-bahamas.html

In order to deter criminals, swift justice must be the reality - and not just a PR slogan.

Incessant delays in the courts are the result of system failures, according to Wayne Munroe:

"Time is a finite resource, so if you waste time trying hopeless matters then you don't have time to try those that have substance. This year four judges directed acquittals in a number of cases where there was no evidence. Those trials occupied six to eight weeks of court time, which is no longer available to try cases that do have sufficient evidence...Magistrates set 30 or more cases a day and may still be finished by 1pm because of the inability of cases to proceed, often because a witness does not appear."

http://www.bahamapundit.com/2011/07/fixing-the-crimninal-justice-system.html

Your points about the church are well taken, but I was attempting to illustrate the inanity of focusing so much attention on irrelevant issues while ignoring substantive social problems. That is certainly counterproductive.

William Fielding


Unless decisions and actions are based on data we end up relying on opinion, something which I am sure you would not wish to do.

Maybe the point should be to question the need for another “talk shop”, rather than initiate action based on what we do know and implement research to help shed light on the areas in which our knowledge is particularly deficient.

It is regrettable that you made no mention of the symposium on violence held at the College of The Bahamas last year. Of all the work done on violence in The Bahamas in recent years, this event was surely a milestone:

http://www.cob.edu.bs/Research/ViolenceSymposium/

This symposium raised some uncomfortable questions which decision-makers have ignored rather than acted upon.

The most obvious case probably being that some senior law makers have decided to arm themselves, rather than recognise that we are already a heavily armed community where most of the firearms are held illegally. As a result, should they not consider outlawing firearms?

Further, there seems to be some data to suggest that parenting practices are a cause for concern and that it is parents who introduce violence into the home.

Consequently, students need education on interpersonal relationships (and parenting), something which the Crisis Centre is attempting despite its limited resources.

Even with the Department of Education’s “safe school protocol” it appears that teachers do not follow the protocol, and so the classroom continues to be a place of violence. If the classroom is a violent place, children from violent homes have no escape from violence.

As researchers at the College continue to explore the links between different forms of violent behaviours (for example, animal cruelty and domestic violence) we are providing decision makers with ever more ways as to how to monitor and provide appropriate interventions which have the potential to make society safer.

Faculty at the College are assisting the Crisis Centre with its project on teenage relationships, and we should soon have some very interesting information to share.

In addition, the prison project (reported in part at the Violence Symposium) data continue to yield most informative characteristics about criminals, which will prove useful to government agencies. We hope to be able to share this information in the fall.

If we ever pretend that we need no more studies, we are saying that we are know-alls and we can cease researching.

As you know, good research always raises more questions than it answers. What we do need is for policy makers to read the research results we have and to make the best decisions based upon our current and evolving knowledge of these complex issues.

Sherryl Chea

Very well written. I hope the Minister of National Security and his Junior Minister reads this. Maybe a copy should be sent to them(???).

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