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September 30, 2006


drew Roberts

I will put this link at the top. You may want to explore it before reading further. (Or not.)


"we will have to pay them for their action"

This I am all for. For those that want, need, demand to be paid for those actions.

Here is another link:


I will try and link that into what follows as well.

I suggest we might try paying Bahamian "artists" to create original works and place them under a Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License.





We might use those guys at fundable to raise / commit the monies.

Could we start by trying to raise a million dollars to fund the production of a Bahamian Movie for children?

Are there any movie makers in the Bahamas who would take on such a project?

How about the want to be writer who wrote this piece? How much would you need to earn for a year to give yourself totally to writing and put all of your works for a year under a CC BY-SA license? Let us know, perhaps we can get some funding going for you.

I am going to be trying to write another nanowrimo novel this year:


and I hope to get a per word sponsorship going for my efforts this year. The work will be put under a BY-SA license and made available on ourmedia.org like I did with last year's novel Tings:


I got a decent amount of support two years ago when I requested it, but did not seek any last year.

We might just need to start thinking "outside da box!"

all the best,



Drew, every time you talk about Creative Commons I think it sounds like something I would really buy into but I don't really understand it. I've read the pages you linked me to but need you to translate the legalese into basic info.

Well, that's not strictly true. What's really going on is that my job requires me to fight for copyright for the artists who are not getting it, and so creative commons seems to be at odds with that. But as a writer myself, I'm finding the idea of creative commons interesting.

And the fundable idea is a seriously good one, I think. I don't know about the movie for children, but I could imagine it maybe working for the production of plays and suchlike.

Thanks for jumping out-da-box as usual.

drew Roberts


I don't really mind people fighting for the copyrights of those who are being denied theirs. Or just for copyrights in general. That means they are fighting for mine as well.

I do think that the way the copyright system is run in the world today is broken in many respects though. (If you want to discuss this sometime, I would be happy to. Online or in person.)

See, I come into the Free Culture world from the Free Software world. I run a desktop daily where I have access to over fifteen thousand Free Programs (think libre) available to me for free (think gratis) or I can pay for them if I choose.

So, I know that doing things in this alternate way can be both practical and rewarding.

Now. Here for example is my last year's nano book "Tings":


It is available under a CC BY-SA license:


This gives you or anyone the right:

to copy, distribute, display, and perform the work

to make derivative works

to make commercial use of the work


Attribution. You must attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor.

Share Alike. If you alter, transform, or build upon this work, you may distribute the resulting work only under a license identical to this one.


For any reuse or distribution, you must make clear to others the license terms of this work.

Any of these conditions can be waived if you get permission from the copyright holder.

The legalese is harder to understand.

Are you really having trouble understanding this? Or is the difficulty more in understanding the economics of the deal or the motivations as to why someone would choose to do this?

Let me just say that Creative Commons is not at odds with your job (well I am only really interested with the copyleft type CC license which is BY-SA and the other Free license which is BY, but mostly BY-SA) as it is the artists themselves that have to choose to license their works in this way. No one forces them.

Those that catch on to the benefits of doing things in a new way can benefit from it. Those that don't can choose different licenses, or stand pat.

Let me also say that one of the biggest issues I have with copyrights today is that they tend not to benefit the actual creators all that much. On the whole it is the middle men and the money men who seem to benefit the most. Have you read up much on how the music business actually works?

Also, are you aware that there are those in the US who are currently attempting to patent plots? (IIRC it is plots.)


One of the first links I came upon in Google.

all the best,



i would like to know exactly who wrote the editorial entitled on making a living doing what you love.


Drew, I would love to discuss this — online, so I can have a written record to remember and use in my job, and in person as well, because it seems like a big topic that could go on and on forever.

I'm not having trouble understanding either the principle or the motivation, but some of the details are confusing, largely because I have not entirely mastered the breadth of copyright law yet, and while this is similar it is quite different.

And you are right — plenty of copyright doesn't help the creators of the works. Most of the time copyrights are there to benefit the disseminators of the work — the record companies, the book publishers, the movie production companies.

I suppose what I'm trying to work out — given the fact that all of this has implications for the Cultural Policy as well as for Free Trade agreements of various kinds — is how it all fits together. I'm trying to catalogue Creative Commons in my head so that I can work out whether, or where, to include references to it in the Policy.

Landra, thanks for stopping by. My apologies for leaving off the byline — it's there now!

Nicolette Bethel

Bahamian Writer

You're so write/right. Making money writing in the Bahamas is like pulling teeth. I left the Bahamas years ago because most Bahamians have not respect for home grown talent. They are brainwashed and if you ain't white, or foreign, or sleeping "wit somebody darn politician husband" then "ya can kiss ya bongie and money goodbye".

Thus, I understand your sentiments. The problem is compounded by several factors:

* Local politicians typically are threatened by any talented Bahamian that is not in their circle
* Bahamians are not taught to respect their own culture so have a strong sense of self-hate
* Bahamian stores do not promote or purchase enough Bahamian product
* ZNS, etc

Nikell Johnson

I like this article and I totally agree with what is said because I too want to become a writer when I grow up but I don't want to have to do it in another country just to make a living. I am a COB student and because I know I can't make a living off writing in The Bahamas, I am forced to choose another career path. Presently, I am finding a hard time doing that because I know within myself that writing is my purpose and I don't feel as if any other job would make me happy. However, choosing another career is what I have to do and my passion for writing will just have to be set aside. I am glad that someone in The Bahamas addressed the fact that there should be more attention paid to the arts and hopefully, someday in the near future, something will be done about it.

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